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knreed
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Project Selection Workaround

Due to some very clever thinking by the volunteers, I think that most people can achieve their desired settings with the following workarounds. Please note that these are workarounds. We are starting an effort to redesign the project selection page and device profile pages to make them easier to use and provide more flexibility.

Option 1: Run ONLY GPU for World Community Grid:

* For the device profile option "Allow research to run on my CPU? " select "no"
* For the option "If my computer can process work on my graphics card, then please send me work to run on my graphics card for the projects that I have selected above." - Check the box.
* Make sure you have opted to run work for the Help Conquer Cancer project

Option 2: Run ONLY GPU for Help Conquer Cancer, Run CPU for other projects. Do not run CPU for Help Conquer Cancer

* For the device profile option "Allow research to run on my CPU? " select "yes"
* For the option "If my computer can process work on my graphics card, then please send me work to run on my graphics card for the projects that I have selected above." - Check the box.
* Make sure that you are NOT signed up for the Help Conquer Cancer project
* Make sure that you HAVE checked the box for "If there is no work available for my computer for the projects I have selected above, please send me work from another project."

If someone could verify success with these options, that would be appreciated. Also, please note other desired scenarios below and I will update this post with workarounds for that as we find them.
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Re: Project Selection Workaround

That works, but will of course send a random set, not a specific, and could include HCC, similar to the conundrum of CEP2 being occasionally send when though not wanting them.

Was thinking before you somehow managed to do the trick of e.g. FAAH+SN2S+GPUHCC and feeder priority [low] to coax the system in only letting HCC be send to the GPU and in this sample FAAH+SN2S to the CPU.

Thanks for drafting the *workaround* FAQ :D
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Re: Project Selection Workaround

Will give it a shot to see what happens. Thanks.
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Re: Project Selection Workaround

OS: Win 7 64
Client: 6.10.58

I set up the profile to:
..select GFAM and DDDT2,
..Allow research to run on my CPU to yes,
.."If my computer can process work on my graphics card, then please send me work to run on my graphics card for the projects that I have selected above." is Checked
.."If there is no work available for my computer for the projects I have selected above, please send me work from another project." is Checked
..Additional work buffer to 0.0 days

This works fine for me as long as I have my cache set to 0.0 days. The device I tried it on is fetching HCC GPU WU and honoring the cache setting for the selected subprojects.

However, if I increase the cache to anything greater than 0.0 days the client continues to ask for and receive the selected CPU tasks. After letting it run for about 5 minutes with a 0.2 cache it has pulled down over 3 days of WU.

My understanding is that this is a "bug" in the 6.10.58 client. So from my experience be careful about your cache setting when using this method.
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We have temporarily limited the max number of workunits in progress for cpu to 10 due to this issue. We are examining how to address now.
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Re: Project Selection Workaround

hi,

This is not a a success entirely, what I want is
devote 75% of CPU to CEP2 (this can be done if I allow only 6
wu's since I have 8 cpu threads) and HCC may use the GPU
(If I play a game I stop the entire boinc manager, including the wu's).

Incidently the reason I only run CEP2 is this ability to limit the number of WU's downloaded at any time, this should be a configuration for
all projects, since I simply want to keep 25% of CPU power for me myself and I :)

With this device profile I get a number of other WU's for
Go fight against malaria, fightaids@home, say no to schistosoma,
human proteome folding, drug search for leishmaniasis AND (indeed)
Help Conquer cancer 6.56 (ati_hcc1) .

But the ATI project is not even running currently since all the slots
are taken, so it's a big gamble and my CPU is utilized 100%
which I don't like.

So I cannot use this option, the only choice would be to abandon
CEP2 and stop using the CPU and only opt-in for the GPU project.

There's a possibility the following may work: change the device profile
each time, then manually update the WCG project,
I assume the active wu's will just keep running.

- switch to : 'no cpu', hcc project exclusively , sync project
check message log and wait until gpu project runs
- switch profile back to: 'may use cpu', cep2 exclusively
(of course other volunteers can choose the projects they support)

I will test this and update once current (unwanted) WU's are gone from my system,

greetings,

Harm
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I really hope someone "up there" hears you, hnapel! I am in about the same situation, just using 3 of my 4 cores (still 75% though). I guess even though many have waited for the GPU HCC, few have anticipated all the ruckus this will cause, but if knreed or one of the techs that have a say in it are reading this, I really do hope they take heave and implement not just the option to run each project only on GPU or CPU, but also the number of concurrent tasks that can be run by project...

Awww...wouldn't that be a dream come true? praying

Edit2: finally got the "awww" right...I think...
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Thanks! It works smile ...
but now I have to find rope to patch my Beta-CPU net thinking
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Option 2: Run ONLY GPU for Help Conquer Cancer, Run CPU for other projects. Do not run CPU for Help Conquer Cancer

* For the device profile option "Allow research to run on my CPU? " select "yes"
* For the option "If my computer can process work on my graphics card, then please send me work to run on my graphics card for the projects that I have selected above." - Check the box.
* Make sure that you are NOT signed up for the Help Conquer Cancer project
* Make sure that you HAVE checked the box for "If there is no work available for my computer for the projects I have selected above, please send me work from another project."

If someone could verify success with these options, that would be appreciated.

This is working almost perfectly for me. My only Windows machine has received lots of HCC GPU WUs and no HCC CPU WUs. It has received CPU WUs from the sciences that I have specifically selected. However, it also received one CPU WU from a science that is not checked. (Maybe it happened to request tasks at a brief moment when no GFAM or SN2S were available.)
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knreed, thanks for this workaround. I set buffer to 0 (just in case) and looks like it's working well. I get HCC units for gpu and HPF2 for cpu.
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